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nineveh_uk ([personal profile] nineveh_uk) wrote2011-06-07 07:58 am
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Wimseficlet: Dog collar

‘I’ll do anything you like if you’ll take it off now.’

‘That’s a promise.’


Really, with that as canon (Gaudy Night, chp. 19), how can the universe continue on its course and yet contain no Peter/Harriet dog-collar fics?

Anyway, I see from [community profile] metafandom that it’s [community profile] kink_bingo time, and so I went and looked at a card and was scarred for life one of the prompts was “collar”, and while I never, ever intend to do [community profile] kink_bingo, I am afraid I did have a little idea... PG-ish.



The dark quiet of Lady Peter Wimsey’s bedroom in Audley Square was broken by the light of late night taxis and appreciative voices, occasionally in French. Her ladyship, whose education had been less cosmopolitan than that of her husband, encouraged the use of his native tongue, but lapses were understandable.

‘Peter,’ said Harriet, ‘do you still have that dog collar?’

‘Yes,’ said he, a little startled by this apparent non sequitur, but willing to listen courteously enough. ‘I owe your life to it, after all, though I never did have my name put on it.’

‘We can remedy that another time. Would you fetch it?’

‘Now?’

‘Hmm.’

‘As my lady commands,’ flinging back the bedclothes and shivering ostentatiously, and then suddenly serious, ‘but, look here Harriet. I never meant - God knows what it looks like, the sort of thing I would think of and not care what it – what I mean to say is, are you sure this is a good idea?’

‘I think so.’

Six centuries of possessiveness... Not to be nullified by a word of renunciation. Not in this house with the Wimsey mice running over the chairs in the hall. I meant it, he had once said, I have said it, and meaning did not bow to intent alone.

‘Your lady commands. Now go and put it on – I’ve had my hands around your neck often enough to know the size.’

ETA: And, inspired, if that's the right word,

A glint of shining brass in the dressing-table mirror: Peter, at her door with the dog collar dangling from his hand and a speculative look in his eyes.

I’ll do anything you like if you’ll only take it off now.

‘No, not that.’ Two presents: her life, and her self-respect.



*Is it really necessary to say that I don't give a damn what people do in real life, this is about the reactions of a fictional character?
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[personal profile] jest 2011-06-07 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
In canon, Peter Wimsey also keeps rope in his bedroom. It's like he's begging for kink bingo...
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[personal profile] antisoppist 2011-06-07 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Did Bunter tie him up as well as drug him when the shell shock got too much?

You'd think The Nine Tailors would put him off.
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[personal profile] jest 2011-06-07 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't remember where, but fortunately that is the sort of thing I post about... it appears that it is in the short story "The Learned Adventure of the Dragon's Head" in the collection Lord Peter Views the Body.

The rope was being used to tie up a baddie. Peter is, um, very practical.

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
Even if you are not doing kink_bingo, surely this and Overmastered is ticking off a litte list somewhere.

Um... yes... er... Good thing Peter knew where he was keeping the dog collar and didn't have to ring for Bunter to fetch it.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
a little list somewhere

Now that you mention it there is that WIP Bunter/St George, and "hierarchy" is (I think) one of the squares.

Peter, who is a pure-souled, high-minded sort of man, keeps the dog collar in his sock drawer and regards it in a sentimental fashion. Nothing else has previously crossed his mind. Ever. Honest. Except note edited post.
Edited 2011-06-07 11:52 (UTC)
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2011-06-07 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I can't see Harriet being keen on being submissive, given her past relationship with Boyes (and I'm not sure that Peter could actually pull off being dominant when it came down to it, six centuries of possessiveness or not... He'd end up having responsibility nightmares, or something).

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
and I'm not sure that Peter could actually pull off being dominant when it came down to it

I am inclined to agree with this - even the suggestion comes close to being OOC. Not that Peter doesn't often cast himself in a dominant role, but his mental image doesn't include thinking of himself in that way, so I don't really see him being comfortable requesting or performing this. If I were having to write this as a longer fic (and happily I am not!) I'd see the likelier scenario as Harriet, who does acknowledge a submissive side of her character on occasion (except when she is vehemently denying it) wanting to explore it in very strictly delineated circumstances, and the two of them feeling their way through their extensive reservations on both sides. Or there's PWP.

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
his mental image doesn't include thinking of himself in that way
From a man who means to be King and Emperor? But no, to be fair to Peter, that's more about expertise than it is about roles and we do know he doesn't want Harriet as a (paid) subordinate.

Boyes, on the other hand...

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't claim that he is entirely consistent...

The K&E line, of course, ties into the metaphysical poets and their geography metaphors, but I am afraid it makes me think of Prince Charles and the "royal orbs and sceptre" stuff in The Sun.

[identity profile] ethelmay.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
I have to admit I saw the progression from "my lord" to "king" and "emperor" purely in terms of Harriet's, um, denouements getting better and better.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2011-06-07 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hee!

It's surprising the Wimsey fandom is the way it is, really.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
I know! It offers so much and we callously refuse to write it.

[identity profile] graylion.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
that one has been tickling me for a long long time.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I am glad to scratch the itch!

[identity profile] petronelle.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*beams at them* Yes, that makes perfect sense.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

Nice!

(Anonymous) 2011-06-07 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Note perfect as always! Thanks for brightening a very stressful morning!

M

Re: Nice!

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

[identity profile] fallingtowers.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, this would work really well as a Kink Bingo fic, and I mean this in the best way possible!

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
I think I shall stay an outside participant for now (but I see come October there is an open session...)

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I was so relieved by the twist at the end! Although Harriet putting on the dog collar would have a certain symbolic value, given my feelings about the differences between Lady Peter and Harriet Vane, I still don't want to Go There.

It strikes me, though, that given DLS's fascination with the process whereby the relationship is negotiated - which continues, at least to this reader's mind, well past the point when you'd think the two of them could stop dancing around each other and just get on with being married - that the bedroom would be the ideal way of extending that sense of uncertainty and caution and trying to second guess the other person's feelings. Perhaps the only way DLS could actually have finished Thrones, Dominations would have been to alternate the mystery with pages and pages of porn.

I very much like the quiet being broken by "late night taxis and appreciative voices", by the way. It's both vivid and economical. And you get the French in! Intertextuality, yay!

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
I do like the idea of Sayers being unable to finish THRO because it needed detailed porn. "Go to bed and work it out" is canon after all.

As they spend those five years not negotiating anything about the relationship at all, apart from whether there is a relationship in the first place, and it's all bound (um) up with power and pride and perceived inferiority/superiority and Harriet's ultimate response is to fall down a well, splat, there's rather a lot of endlessly fascinating stuff still to be worked out.

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
Sayers being unable to finish THRO because it needed detailed porn.

Perhaps she got so wrapped up in the porn that by the time she realised she'd written a PWP it was too late to meet the publisher's deadline. And of course once the estate got hold of it they ripped out all the porn and brought in JPW to bridge the gaps.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
And the porn sits even now in cardboard boxes in the garden shed, tantalising those few who heard rumours passed down by the publishers (GOllancz wanted to go ahead, but DLS thought it would hurt her reputation as a religious writer).

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
the porn sits even now in cardboard boxes in the garden shed

I always thought your DLS voice was suspiciously accurate.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I tunnelled in and abstracted manuscripts by stuffing them down my trousers.

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that an MS in your pocket, or are you just - oh, never mind.

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I was once left alone in a house in Witham with 3 cardboard boxes of Sayers papers... Oh for a Tardis. I did appreciate my luck at the time but there wasn't much time to read much before everyone came back again.

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Good God, you can't just stop there, woman! What? When? How? WHY? Enquiring minds want to now!

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Since you ask, my journal, flocked.

Go to bed and work it out

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
Big Brother: It's day 783 in the Audley Square House. Peter and Harriet are in bed together.

Camera, strategically pixillated: Zooms in on tangle of limbs and bedclothes revealed to be Peter and Harriet. At least one of them is upside down and appears to in a position usually associated only with yoga masters.

Peter: What about [this].

Camera: Suddenly heavily censored.

Harriet (voiceover): Sorry, I still feel the opression inherent in the system.

*

I can't help feeling that spending more than three weeks of their engagement in the same country might have been a good idea in terms of negotiating things about the relationship. Or spending any of those three weeks on it - as far as I can see, it appears to be wedding planning, evenings out, and getting stressed about Helen. Also I am now imagining the Botanical Gardens fic that I cannot write being greatly improved by including Harriet's falling down a well.

Re: Go to bed and work it out

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You should abandon the Botanical Gardens and write the engagement Rome-London letters instead. Except that they are probably all about buying curtains and the League of Nations.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
I would be happy to read someone else Going There (well, as long as it did not involve lengthy digressions about mud), but my mind refuses to contemplate Harriet actually going through with the dog collar for very long at all.

that the bedroom would be the ideal way of extending that sense of uncertainty and caution and trying to second guess the other person's feelings

I swear that this summer I am going to scan my MS notes and definitely not share them with anybody.

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Harriet actually going through with the dog collar for very long at all
I can't see literal-minded, deliberate and honest Harriet being very keen on, or any good at any kind of role play really.

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Bunter, on the other hand...

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Bunter is all things to all men... and women.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
And over his adventures on Beta Colony a line is respectfully drawn (they have high standards of confidentiality on the Orb).

[identity profile] coalboy.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Bunter on Beta!! More, more!

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Who says it's role play...

[identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Philip Boyes but he's lying.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ick, but plausible. He would justify it as necessary to explore his creative imagination for his great works. The same would not apply to Harriet, because she was just a hack.

[identity profile] alexandralynch.livejournal.com 2011-11-13 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
I can see Peter bottoming to Harriet for the fun of it, and her service topping him because she loves him and it IS interesting, but neither of them dominate or submit to the other. That's part of the foundational issue in their relationship.