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In which Paul Delagardie reflects on the process of setting up one's teenage nephew's Lessons in Ze Arts of Lurve.

This is the fic that I was supposed to writing when I got overtaken by last week’s fic. It is still Wrong, but considerably less Wrong than its spawn. Well, as long as you don’t add a final paragraph in which Paul reflects on the outcome of his efforts... In any case, the author accepts no responsibility for damage to furniture or carpets as a result of missing the sick-bucket.

The business of selecting a lover, even a lover by proxy, is a delicate one

She was, you must understand, quite extraordinarily beautiful. I considered that important. Young men like women to be beautiful. All men like women to be beautiful. But beauty is not everything; it was also important that she was clever. If a taste for beauty is inevitable, one may at least endeavour to inculcate a taste for brains. I was not naive enough to imagine that a young man is not liable to fall at least a little in love with his first woman, and I was determined that Peter should be able to look back on such youthful follies without embarrassment on that front at least, which shows only that one cannot tell the future.

I made an appointment to call on her. I forget the excuse, shares or factories or something along those lines. I wished to be sure of seeing her alone, but I did not care for any misunderstandings. These little awkwardnesses are apt to get in the way if allowed to arise, and the prudent man avoids them. Naturally, I carried some information concerning factories. One does not begin negotiations with a woman by letting her down, and Natascha, being a sensible woman, was far more interested in industrial investments than she was in diamonds. It put her in a good mood, and I embarked upon my main theme. As I had expected, she was not immediately convinced by my proposal. I remember exactly how she said it; she had a very attractive voice, a little high, but clear and never shrill.

‘You and I are old friends, Monsieur Delagardie, perhaps because we have never been lovers, which I do not think is a problem for women, but is very often for men. You will not be offended if I speak frankly, so I tell you that there is no possible consideration that could persuade me. A seventeen year-old English schoolboy? And at Eton! He would need to be the son of twenty Dukes. My dear Paul, understand me, I am sure he is a very nice boy, but really – on no consideration.’

I replaced my teacup – I have never been very fond of tea, but accept its role as a social necessity – and smiled.

‘Not even –’ I said, and named a sum.

*

The question as to which woman was to have the task of introducing my young nephew to the arts of love had given me some anxiety. I had made the proposal to arrange things for him in the blithe good humour of one making a generous offer that is sure to meet with a grateful reception. Peter might not have known exactly what he was asking for when he requested to see me concerning a personal matter, but I was seventeen once myself.

With Peter returned to school and my promise contingent on persuading his mother, my brother-in-law, and the lady herself, of the virtues of my scheme, I confess I was a little less sanguine. In the event the Duke, entangled in the expensive aftermath of his own most recent affair and his eldest son’s misadventures in Oxford, proved unwontedly grateful and promised to see to all expenses. Gerald’s episode with the publican’s daughter had upset Denver more than he liked to admit. My sister, who is not a Wimsey but understands them – with the exception, I fear, of her daughter – only cared that Peter was happy and safe and was quite ready to believe that he was more likely to be so under my hands in Paris than left to his own devices in England. I could only agree with her. Peter has never been an Adonis, but he was a tolerable-looking young man and possessed of very pretty manners. There were not a few young wives of little more than his age who would have been interested in a change from drab husbands, but I had no desire to see Peter begin his career embroiled in a public scandal. It was not in my nature to take up a cudgel on my sister’s behalf, nor would Lucy have thanked me if it had been, but I confess that I have never since been altogether approving of adultery. Nor did I expect it to appeal to Peter, but he was quite young and inexperienced enough to find himself inadvertently entangled.

The financial side taken care of, this left only the woman into whose experienced hands my inexperienced protégé was to be placed. My fondness for the boy did not go so far as to anticipate that his initial forays would demonstrate any greater proficiency at his task than the average young Englishman. I only hoped that his native good temper and intelligence, with the aid of a little humility, would contrive to carry him through. Vanity hoped that he might in time be a credit to me. The character of the woman was a more delicate issue. She must not be vulgar. I have always hated vulgarity and I felt Peter might shy away from anything of that sort. He was a noticing kind of young man, and inexperienced as he was I felt sure that he would recoil at any sense of the ersatz or obvious. At the same time, the power of physical attraction should not be under-estimated. My sex is not always high-minded; I have already remarked that men like beautiful women. She must be amiable, but not acquiescent. I did not think that Peter would be improved by acquiescence. She must inspire respect, for he must not despise, but neither should he love.

Natascha was all I could have wished for. A woman with beauty, a woman with a brain, with a sense of humour, with conversation, old enough to appear sophisticated to a young man, young enough to look to a future without him. A little detached. If Natascha were not the perfect courtesan it was perhaps because she lacked the ability to make a man believe her utterly in love with him, and thus inspire the fervent love a man may feel even for a woman of her type. I believe this may be why she had never attracted me. Understand, I had no wish to fall in love, but there is a frisson in the possibility of being overpowered. This experience alone I did not wish to give to Peter. His parents would not thank me for it, and nor, when he came to his senses, would he. Natascha was ideal. She was, I felt, a woman with whom Peter might be himself with very little risk and the likelihood of a great deal of enjoyment, if only the lady herself could be persuaded.

*

She laid her teacup in its saucer. She was not offended; this, too, had led me to favour her. The sentimental coyness that denies such things are business transactions may have its attractions, but they are dangerous ones. I prefer to acknowledge the facts. One may always pretend to forget them afterwards.

Natascha shook her head.

‘Why would a man – even a Duke – give so much for his son? A Frenchman, that one might imagine, but an Englishman! It is not possible. My dear Paul, you must be mistaken. You have misunderstood.’

‘I assure you I have not,’ I said, and named the figure again.

‘But why?’

‘That is quite simple: my brother is ashamed. His wife loves him, and he persists in betraying her. He conducts his affairs with sincerity, of a sort, and inevitably therefore they end in embarrassment. He has recently had to extricate his eldest son from an entanglement in Oxford – I must not be unfair to the girl, it was entirely Gerald’s fault – ending in an order for maintenance. As for Peter, he has never understood the boy at all. But he does care for him, and would wish to spare his son, as well as himself, the vague presentiments of disaster with which his limited imagination besets him.’

Natascha laughed. I declined to add that my brother-in-law had failed to hide his relief at learning his fastidious son was interested in women at all. I did not think that would be a recommendation.

‘I am sorry for the Duke. We manage these things better in France. But a boy is still a boy, even a rich boy of an unhappy father. I should be a laughing stock.’

‘I don’t think so. But you might make a laughing stock of someone else.’

Her expression became very still. ‘What do you mean?’

‘My dear, I know you were greatly offended by the Marquis’ manner of leaving you.’

‘I was,’ she said coldly. ‘He made me look a fool. But I scarcely see what this has to do with the matter in hand.’

‘Only that you might make him look a greater fool in return. I know that no-one will imagine you that take on Peter out of love. But you might find him worth keeping, and if he is, you might enjoy making something of it. I hear that the Marquis is not as happy as he might be in his marriage – no doubt his bride is disappointed in him – and looks to return to Paris. How unfortunate for him if he should find you otherwise occupied with his successor, professing, perhaps, the entirely satisfactory nature of this replacement. Take Peter for a month, and see what you can make of him. Start him off in the country, if you don’t care for it in Paris. He will be grateful, and you will be tolerably well rewarded. After that, I leave it in your hands.’

Natascha summoned the maid, who poured more tea, replenished the cakes, and retired having allowed her mistress time to consider. ‘It might be entertaining,’ she conceded. ‘One could consider the issue scientifically: are the bad habits of so many men innate, or the result of poor training? Although I am not happy about Eton – they say these English schools are all rum and buggery, is it not so?’

I narrowly avoided choking on a crumb, and composed myself with a little tea. ‘They certainly say it,’ I admitted, as indeed in Paris they did, ‘but you shouldn’t believe everything you hear. I don’t think you need be concerned on that score. If I am wrong, you may name the penalty.’

‘Do you have his photograph?’ she asked, and I felt a blossoming confidence in the outcome of our discussion. Peter has always photographed well, even before that man of his took to using him as a study. Besides, I believe that when a lady asks for a photograph she is no longer looking for an excuse to say no, but confirmation of her desire to say yes. Naturally I had a photograph, and naturally Peter looked at his best in it. I had some scruples; I informed the lady that the photograph understated the size of Peter’s nose.

‘Is he sentimental? That is so wearing.’

‘Not at all. I believe that if he fell in love he might be romantic, but I hope that he would not confuse romance with something else.’

‘Is he a religious man?’ Natascha, like many women of her calling, was a deeply religious woman. Fortunately for my cause, her religion took the form of an obscure Polish sect native to her village, compared to the stark purity of which she rejected the Catholicism of Paris as frivolous indulgence and almost never went to church. If one wishes to give a young man his first experience of love without guilt or shame, it does not do for the lady to rise every day from his bed to go to confession.

‘No more than any English schoolboy – he bends his head as ritual demands, sings in the church choir in Denver, and at school never thinks of it between one chapel and the next. His disagreements with his father are matters more of partiality and taste than moral outrage.’

She handed me the photograph, looked at her watch, and rose. ‘Forgive me, Paul, I have an appointment with my man of business, and I shall not scruple to make use of your information. I shall consider your nephew and let you know my decision.’ She smiled, placating. ‘You know I never make a decision without sleeping on it – alone.’

I had donned my coat when she laid a soft hand on my arm. ‘Tell me one thing quite honestly, Paul. Why are you doing this for the boy?’

I raised my hat. ‘Because I care for him, as does his father, and we remember what it was like to be young and would spare him – ’

‘I understand.’ Natascha looked away, but not before an indefinable expression passed over her face. Then it was gone and she looked back at me and laughed. ‘Bring your nephew to Paris and introduce him to me, and I shall see what I can make of him. I believe it might prove amusing after all.’

*

Author's Note: This fic draws in a minor way on a piece of unpublished Sayers material (part of the Thrones, Dominations papers) that I nonetheless feel is mentionable because Jill Paton Walsh has talked quite a bit about those bits of MS, specifically that the motivation of the character I’ve named Natascha is at least in part that she has been unceremoniously dumped by an ex-client, and looking for some social revenge. It also, of course, draws heavily on Uncle Paul’s biographical note, the veracity of which I leave to the reader to consider.

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Date: 2012-03-24 11:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] castiron
Very nice!

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Date: 2012-03-21 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com
Paul is so horribly smug (which is a compliment to you for successfully tackling Uncle Paul pov Uncle Paul). I am relieved he didn't demand detailed progress reports in return for all that danger money ("English public schools is extra"). I loved Natascha's professional concerns and sniggered at Peter's nose.

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Date: 2012-03-21 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I can only assume that progress reports stretched Paul's ability to think of himself as merely a disinterested facilitator. Or he was worried that the answer would be "better than you" or "rubbish, actually". Mammoth smugness does quite well with standing back and smugly congratulating himself while staying away from the messy details. English public schools is definitely danger money.

I don't know what you can possibly be thinking re. Peter's nose.

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Date: 2012-03-21 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com
I, too, sniggered at Peter's nose.

I was reminded so forcibly of Uncle Paul when watching the sleazy old man who can't get laid in Best Exotic Marigold Hotel (who is in turn merely an older version of the revolting Colin in Love Actually) that I decided all his talk of Experience and Tigers is pure bluff and he's never actually been able to persuade a woman to get into bed with him.

However, assuming that this is an unnecessarily cynical view,then I think the inside of Uncle Paul's head would be very much as you depict, full of back-patting about how well he knows women (investments in industry, forsooth!) and what would be best for Peter. And while I don't think he would recognise vulgarity if it jumped up and bit him on the nose - not so long as it was wearing flimsy underwear, anyway - I'm sure he thinks of himself as a great conoisseur for whom only the very classiest dame is good enough. In other words, I think this whole story is great.

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Date: 2012-03-21 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Honestly, you lot have such dirty minds. Sniggering at noses, I don't know.

all his talk of Experience and Tigers is pure bluff and he's never actually been able to persuade a woman to get into bed with him

Perhaps he has performance anxiety after an early experience in which a woman laughed at hs Great Lover pretensions, so now he doesn't risk being judged or found wanting, and pays women to tell him how amazing and wonderful he is in bed without ever actually touching them. (I haven't seen BEMH - what's it like?)

Cynicism aside, I am glad it was a convincing portrait and that the smugness comes across. I'm sure he's insufferable on the subject of his expertise about wine, too - and thinks of women as very little different from it.

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Date: 2012-03-22 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com
Oh dear. I am now seeing Uncle Paul as Swiss Toni from the Fast Show.

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Date: 2012-03-22 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Lady Catherine de Burgh: "If I had ever learnt, I should have been a great proficient".

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Date: 2012-03-21 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elise-wanderer.livejournal.com
Wonderfully done! I especially liked Denver's "relief at learning his fastidious son was interested in women at all." So very Gerald.

And now, perhaps, you will be inspired to detail the interview itself, in which she does indeed find him an amusing assignment--and perhaps more?

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Date: 2012-03-21 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I suspect Peter's father's definition of heterosexual was "reliably stares at the housemaid's tits".

It is possible that a teensy sequel has been envisaged.

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Date: 2012-03-21 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elise-wanderer.livejournal.com
Poor housemaids!

*holds breath waiting for teensy sequel*

(Forgive my getting father and son confused, but I think both Gerald AND their father were a peas from the same pod, as I recall. Realized my error after I posted. This is why I only READ Wimsey!fic....)

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Date: 2012-03-22 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I assumed that was what you mean - and I agree, Gerald is definitely a chip off the old block.

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Date: 2012-03-21 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catkind.livejournal.com
Made me laugh. Never really thought about the logistics of Peter's Parisian education. The mind does indeed boggle. I would love to know what she makes of young!Peter.
But...
You've seen the Thrones Dominations papers? I've always been intrigued by them, specially the coloured plot diagram that is mentioned in one of DLS's letters.

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Date: 2012-03-21 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
There might possibly be further revelations. But not yet!

I have seen the T,D papers at the archive at Wheaton (near Chicago). The coloured plot diagram is really not that exciting - at least, if it is the one she's talking about - though. Only two lines, though an interesting indication of how she worked. I didn't have time to read as much as I might have liked, but it was really interesting, not least in terms of seeing JPW's choices.

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Date: 2012-03-21 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlered2.livejournal.com
Out of interest, how easy it is to get access? Can you just contact them and say, "hi, I'll be in the area and am interested in DLS, would it be possible to view the papers?", or do you need to be affiliated with a university/doing it for Legitimate Scholarly Reasons?

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Date: 2012-03-21 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I was there for a DLS Convention, but they seemed very nice and helpful in general, and I know that other people have got access by saying "Hi I'm in the area and am interested in DLS". If you make an appointment, they find it helpful if you can tell them in advance what you want to look at so they can get it out for you. IIRC, most of what is made available to the casual reader is photocopies of the originals, but the readability is fine.

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Date: 2012-03-22 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlered2.livejournal.com
I shall bear that in mind if I'm ever in the area - thank you.

I love the fic - Uncle Paul is so awful, and you get that across brilliantly. (Poor Natascha. One hopes she was paid extremely well.)

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Date: 2012-03-22 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
One hopes she was paid extremely well.

She certainly deserves to be.
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Date: 2012-03-21 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I think that Uncle Paul's definition of a clever woman might also include "recognises how magnificent I am".

Uncle Paul explaining to Peter how to make a good first impression

*Shudder* Though I have done one particular first impression (http://nineveh-uk.livejournal.com/75868.html?thread=2206300#t2206300) on that front...

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Date: 2012-03-21 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamedarque.livejournal.com
This is icky, and I mean that in the best possible way. I salute you for taking on Uncle Paul's POV, given that recreating that smug, affected manner of his was probably not an easy proposition! I am torn between feeling sorry for Peter and glad that someone has taken an interest in him other than the Duke.

As for Peter, he has never understood the boy at all. But he does care for him, and would wish to spare his son, as well as himself, the vague presentiments of disaster with which his limited imagination besets him.

Absolutely perfect.

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Date: 2012-03-21 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
It fell into place when I realised that I could write it in the first person - Uncle Paul enjoys talking about himself!

I suppose Peter is better off if the alternatives were an embarrassing public affair, syphilis, or various bastard children, but I can't feel that "Keep it in your trousers until you go to university, and when you do, this is how contraception works" would necessarily have been worse.

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Date: 2012-03-21 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamedarque.livejournal.com
Well, that would assume that Peter has a normal and well-adjusted family, not a megalomaniac uncle bent on making him his protege in ~matters of love.~

I think you captured perfectly how skeevily delighted Paul was to shepherd his nephew's sexual initiation (as someone mentioned, I'd be surprised if he didn't ask for detailed reports!) There's nothing more skin-crawling that a self-appointed connoisseur of women, although I suppose it is a better alternative than Gerald's example. But I can't help but feel grateful that an older Peter seems to be less of an entitled douchecanoe in his dealings with women. Although I've never been quite as convinced as him that he is, in fact, really, really good at sex.

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Date: 2012-03-22 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
It's notable that Paul thinks of himself as the obvious marvellous choice, rather than the least grim of a bad bunch, which is what he really is. Skin-crawling is the word, though ones skin doesn't so much crawl as sprint in the opposite direction.

Although I've never been quite as convinced as him that he is, in fact, really, really good at sex.

Perhaps he is fortunate that Harriet's existing standards are very low, compared to which practically anyone would be an improvement.

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Date: 2012-03-21 09:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tinx_r
Excellent work :) You have Uncle Paul just so.

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Date: 2012-03-22 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Thank you!

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Date: 2012-03-22 09:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
Paul is icky and you capture that excellently. I think it entirely characteristic that (a) he is perceptive enough to notice that something is wrong with Mary and that her mother doesn't understand what it is, or even that it is, but (b) not interested enough in someone who is merely a niece to make an effort to help her. Although it's probably as well for Mary that he didn't...

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Date: 2012-03-22 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com
Although it's probably as well for Mary that he didn't...

"All right, niece, I've got just the fellow for you. Charming little rent boy, very discreet. Much better than mooning around after married men or cads."

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Date: 2012-03-22 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Argh! The prospect of Uncle Paul's ideas of being helpful might make being ignored seem like the better option.

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Date: 2012-03-23 11:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
*splutters*

Yes, exactly.

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Date: 2012-03-22 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I feel very sorry for young Mary. I can't help feeling that some of the attraction of Goyles was that he appears to have have appreciated that she had half a brain and that she was capable of doing something useful. After all, he considers her capable of supporting his work, whilst her family apparently expect her to be a professional dependent.

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Date: 2012-03-23 11:26 am (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Watercolour of barn owl perched on post. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
Yes, I think that's right. The family seem to have a very low opinion of her capabilities - her mother's very dismissive about her nursing in the war, but I suspect Mary was very sorry to have to give it up at the Armistice.

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Date: 2012-03-30 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I like your rendering of Paul's view of the, ah, facts of life as every sensitive straight boy should know them, but it amazes me after delving into his creepiness that Harriet should like him!

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Date: 2012-04-03 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I can only assume that Paul has learnt to hide his creepiness under a veil of eccentricity!

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Date: 2013-11-15 04:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] northernwalker
I loved this whole fic- Uncle Paul came across as upper-class sleazy (which he really was) and Natascha was perfect, but my favorite bit was this:

My sister, who is not a Wimsey but understands them – with the exception, I fear, of her daughter –

I've been having a Sayers orgy recently, and Mary is my favorite character. Yes, she got into a muddle between Goyles and Cathcart- but Peter got into a muddle with Barbara and allowed it to make him a tragic hero. Mary, instead, faced things and made them work for her. And if Mary had been allowed a life outside being a deb, she might not have gotten in that muddle to begin with!

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