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Ages ago [personal profile] marginaliana asked if people had favourite folk songs, and I meant to respond, but didn't. So now I am.

No-one else's version of a folk song you first hear sung by your mother can ever be perfect*, but this one is as close as any could get. The photos of Roundhay Park do it no harm in my eyes.



*Especially when you're the sort of person whose head shrieks "IVY tree, not rowan!" at every chorus.

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Date: 2016-04-17 08:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] el_staplador
I learned it off a Spinners LP when I was small. They said 'ivy'.

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Date: 2016-04-17 09:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] white_hart
I learned it from a recorder book dating back to my mother's schooldays, and it was definitely 'ivy' there too.

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Date: 2016-04-17 04:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] white_hart
I had a whole collection of the accompanying booklets for 1960s BBC radio singing programmes for schools, which is where I learnt most of my folk songs.

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Date: 2016-04-17 11:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aunty_marion
I rather like the version by the Spinners; but I too shrieked at 'rowan'. WTF?

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Date: 2016-04-17 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I don't give a damn for oral tradition, it's WRONG!

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Date: 2016-04-17 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-redboots.livejournal.com
What's more, they aren't even pronouncing "rowan" correctly - the tree should be pronounced with its first syllable rhyming with "ow!" not "oh!" as in the name....

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Date: 2016-04-17 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
They're pronouncing rowan completely normally! I've never heard it pronounced the way you suggest, though I see that the OED gives both pronunciations as correct. Regional differences, perhaps?

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Date: 2016-04-17 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-redboots.livejournal.com
Possibly - certainly I have always pronounced the tree and the name differently. Euan McColl uses the "rhymes with ow" pronunciation in his version of the Manchester Rambler.
Edited Date: 2016-04-17 07:18 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2016-04-19 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam-t.livejournal.com
I've always heard it pronounced with an 'oh', too, although now I come to think of it, if someone's walking around identifying rowan trees it's generally me, so I'm not sure how many times I've actually heard it said.

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Date: 2016-04-20 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
POssibly a poll is needed!

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Date: 2016-04-17 06:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ylla.livejournal.com
The radio has played the famous version of Whisky in the Jar a couple of times lately - and while of course names do tend to change in folk songs, if the woman's name is supposed to rhyme with penny and (I think) Kilkenny, why decide to call her Molly?

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Date: 2016-04-18 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
There is no reason to the rhyming of folk songs! At least with Shakespeare you can sometimes make it work if you use a Birmingham accent.

When I was a child I had a book that had the "Dr Foster went to Gloucester" rhyme in it and it annoyed me every time I saw it because IT WAS STUPID THAT IT WAS SPELT LIKE THAT!!

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Date: 2016-04-20 11:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marginaliana
This is quite lovely! And not one that I'd heard before.

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Date: 2016-04-20 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I am grateful to you for inspiring me to discover the version!

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