Wimseyfic

Oct. 11th, 2006 02:43 pm
nineveh_uk: Illustration that looks like Harriet Vane (Default)
[personal profile] nineveh_uk
I have a weakness for Wimsey AU. This is unfortunate, as there is so very little out there. If this were the Potter fandom, I would not only be able to find Barbara/Paul Delagardie, there’d be a choice*. Therefore instead of doing something important the other evening, I did this. It isn’t Barbara/Paul, alas, but it is cheap and vulgar and occupied me when I ought to have been writing more important things.

Set some time between the end of Strong Poison and what was probably a rather different Have His Carcase. Peter and Harriet make a really bad decision…



“I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I can’t. I can’t.”

Harriet was crying, her face pressed into the pillow; great jagging sobs that she tried unsuccessfully to stifle. She lay curled in on herself, nightdress pulled tight around her. He found a dressing gown, not the silk thing he had been wearing, but an old woollen one, warm and reassuring, and draped it over her. He thought about brandy, but rejected it – it might give the wrong impression – and settled for a glass of water. She drank it gulping, almost spilling it so that he had to hold it for her, and calmed, still crying but quieter now, face hidden beneath the heavy cloth. He sat perched on the edge of the bed, a brute and an idiot, and wondered how he could ever have thought this might work, that by saying yes to this he could have persuaded her to say yes to what he really wanted. He’d never have it now; he’d ruined everything. She was still crying, and there was nothing he could do. He reached out to touch her shoulder through the gown and she flinched away.

“I’m sorry,” she said, and sat up suddenly and was sick.

He ran a hot bath for her, laid out her clothes in the dressing room, checked the keys in the locks and pointed out the usually superfluous bolts. He heard her slide them home and hated himself. He’d thought he could make it work, that he could show her this and convince her somehow of the rest. The flowers, exuberant narcissi, mocked him. His hands as he dressed sickened him.

She emerged pale but composed. She had washed her hair, and damp tendrils hung over her ears. She put on her coat herself, but let him come down to find her a taxi. He considered and dismissed the wisdom of offering her the spare room.

“I’m sorry,” she said, again.

“Don’t … Harriet - I do love you.” He smiled bitterly. “You’ll never believe that now.”

“It isn’t you,” she said. “It’s myself I’m sick of. I don’t know – what I am anymore.”

“Harriet – ” He shook his head. “I’ve nothing to say to that; I’ve run away from myself too long. It doesn’t work. Only promise - you'll take care.”

“I promise,” she said, and “I’m sorry,” and was gone.

He couldn’t hope he would ever see her again.

***


*Alas, there’d also be fic after fic along the lines of ‘Henry Weldon rapes Harriet, who is then comforted by Peter,’ so this is clearly a swings and roundabouts situation.

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Date: 2006-10-11 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
It’s a bit dark, isn’t it? An interesting AU, though.

And if DLS fandom were JKR fandom, rapefic would probably be one of the more common and harmless things you'd get to read...

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Date: 2006-10-11 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
one of the more common and harmless things

Well, in honour of a certain Potter fic (http://nineveh-uk.livejournal.com/13050.html) that horrified I do mean to one day write “The Were-Leopard of Whemmeling Fell”.

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Date: 2006-10-11 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
With orgies?

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Date: 2006-10-11 02:20 pm (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Watercolour of barn owl perched on post. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
Not exactly cheerful, but well done.

*Considers the prospect of five million rapefics and shudders*

Though, like aervir, I think it could well get worse. Wimsey/ Bunter MPREG?

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Date: 2006-10-11 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Wimsey/ Bunter MPREG?

::sputters in horror::

::tries to think up one better*::

::can't::

*for a certain value of better

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Date: 2006-10-11 03:11 pm (UTC)
gramarye1971: a lone figure in silhouette against a blaze of white light (Bagpuss & Co.)
From: [personal profile] gramarye1971
*tries to go one 'better'/worse*

Any form of Wimsey-cest? Or even cross-generational Wimsey-cest?

*shudders at the very thought*

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Date: 2006-10-11 03:24 pm (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Watercolour of barn owl perched on post. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
Given that Gerald married a cousin, Wimseycest is practically canon... But I think the world can live without NC-17 Gerald/ Helen (bound to be OOC, anyway, as I imagine Helen was firmly in the sex=unpleasant duty camp).

Practically canon

Date: 2006-10-11 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Only in certain states of the US... But the world can indeed live without NC-17 Helen/anyone.

Considering other canon possibilities...

There’s always the Dowager Duchess’s line “The fact is, one never really visualizes one’s own son...” as snapped at Paul for apparently giving her a mental image she would have preferred to live without.

A quick search of Google informs me that the CofE’s 1936 Commission on Kindred and Affinity as Impediments to Marriage recommended allowing Harriet/Uncle Paul (tho’ I suspect that Peter’s will probably didn’t take it into account as one of the possible “contingencies”!).

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Date: 2006-10-11 05:27 pm (UTC)
gramarye1971: stack of old leatherbound books with the text 'Bibliophile' (Books)
From: [personal profile] gramarye1971
Given that Gerald married a cousin, Wimseycest is practically canon

I suppose that depends on whether first cousin marriage is regarded in that way. I tend to regard incest (in the fandom pairing sense) as a relationship that would be forbidden by Table of Kindred and Affinity. ^^;;

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Date: 2006-10-11 05:32 pm (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Watercolour of barn owl perched on post. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
Actually, I agree with you - but you do see warnings for incest in HP fics for cousins (indeed, I seem to remember lots of people, mostly Americans, being squicked by Hermione's suggestion that Tonks was in love with Sirius, although she's techinically a first cousin once removed rather than a first cousin. Not that endogenous marriage within the Black clan strikes me as advisable...)

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Date: 2006-11-18 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mechaieh.livejournal.com
Well, I think I horrified half my friendslist when I suggested Peter's secret kink was having Harriet roleplay Bunter...

(Yes, very late to the discussion. Story of my life these days...)

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Date: 2006-11-20 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Now there's a challenge: horrify the other half - and write it!

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Date: 2006-10-11 03:07 pm (UTC)
gramarye1971: a lone figure in silhouette against a blaze of white light (Bagpuss & Co.)
From: [personal profile] gramarye1971
Wimsey AU is indeed interesting -- I don't tend to go looking for it, but it usually never fails to intrigue me when someone writes it (and writes it well).

Nicely done, this one. Woeful, but sadly believable.

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Date: 2006-10-11 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com
Did Bunter clear up the sick, do you suppose?

And how different a Have His Carcase? Would he have dared turn up at all and would she have kicked him out if he did?

Nice.

A valet's lot is not a happy one

Date: 2006-10-12 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I can't imagine he left it for the early morning char, though it's possible that LPW had arranged for him to be out at the time and thus had to do it himself.

Ironically, I think HHC might have been difference in that Harriet, thinking All Was Over and no longer caring about giving Peter ideas, might have actually have phoned him in the first place.

(Nice icon - I have Strong Poison in the same edition, with Harriet in front of some bars, and Peter looking like Roger Moore)

Re: A valet's lot is not a happy one

Date: 2006-10-12 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com
Hmm I think she'd have still been feeling bruised and if he had dared turn up, he'd have had to be terribly man to man and impersonal about it all.

I have Strong Poison in the same edition, with Harriet in front of some bars, and Peter looking like Roger Moore)

Cripes, there's more of them? One day I will get webspace and start a "Dire Sayers Covers I Have Known" archive. See recent LJ post on the subject.

HHC

Date: 2006-10-13 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I don’t deny it would be a challenge; only that having got things so Horribly Wrong already, they might, if one were in a hopeful mood, mend a bit.

Harriet, whether worried for herself, or feeling rather guilty about Peter (the Horrible Mistake having been her idea, after all, though he failed to fend it off adequately), phones him with a “There’s a corpse on the beach, thought you might be interested” brisk professionalism. He turns up, is v. man to man and impersonal, until they realise discussing it all over liqueurs in her hotel bar, that they are actually having a pleasant evening and a tentative pick up of friendship again. Perhaps. I’m soppy really.

Re: HHC

Date: 2006-10-13 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com
I'm still not convinced she'd ring him but I think if he turned up and said, more or less as he does anyway, "there's a corpse, I'm interested, nothing personal," it might work.

In fact the Horrible Mistake is so horrible it makes the gratitude/pride problem pale into insignificance. If they could get past the Hideous Mistake, they might actually be better off, but it's quite a big if.

Re: HHC

Date: 2006-10-16 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
A very big if, but at least still an if. ::must stop musing, and instead dedicate time to fic I've already started::

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Date: 2006-10-12 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
That's a very bleak take on it... but it could have gone that way.

I've always found the position in "Strong Poison" uncomfortable - but how much more uncomfortable things could have been!

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Date: 2006-10-13 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
There are lots of all-too-plausible ways that things could have gone much, much worse than Sayers has them. REally, Peter and Harriet got off lightly!

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Date: 2009-05-12 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
That's is disturbing but oh so very awesome.

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