nineveh_uk: Illustration that looks like Harriet Vane (Harriet)
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Not really fic, more some thoughts about a sub-plot of A Civil Campaign and Barrayar in general that I first had in fic form and have kept that way. They’ve been sitting on the bookshelf as a draft for ages, and it’s much easier to just type them up like this than to try to pull out the argument and make it coherent in essay form.

So, considerations of Dono Vorrutyer, legitimacy and inheritance.


‘A body birth?’ said Martya dubiously. ‘Isn’t that a bit of a risk?’

‘A bit,’ admitted Countess Vorrutyer. ‘The Vorrutyer genes have never been the most stable. But Dono’s always been perfectly sane – ’

‘Oh, perfectly

‘And he had his germ cells gene-cleaned while he was on Beta. So there’s no genetic damage on that side, and Koudelka genes are as prole as they come. We’re hoping for hybrid vigour. Enrique could tell you about that.’

‘Only if it comes with antennae. But I meant the risk for you.’

‘Oh! Well I’m a body birth myself, and Mama didn’t have any trouble.’

‘Mama,’ said Martya, ‘was Princess Kareen’s armswoman and had had every part of her genetic and physical fitness examined long before she even met Da.’

‘So’ve I,’ said Olivia. ‘It really isn’t reckless. I don’t see why you’re making such a fuss.’

Martya rolled her eyes. ‘Because it’s so stupid. Why ever are you doing it? Just because you’re a countess doesn’t mean you need to go all Time of Isolation. I don’t believe it’s some romantic fit all of a sudden, not after what Ekaterin told us about it. I thought Delia was going to be sick. And I won’t believe that Dono’s making you, either – he ought to know a bit about it himself.’

‘No,’ said Olivia, ‘but it is about the Countship. You were on Sergyar, so you didn’t really see - It wasn’t easy for Dono to secure the district. I don’t mean the Council of Counts, that was the easy part. It was either legal or it wasn’t. The district on the ground was a lot harder. Of course, a lot of people were pleased to have anyone but Richars, and there were plenty of others who knew that Donna had been running the place for Pierre for years and was the only reason things hadn’t got much worse. But there was still a good deal of disquiet, and not just in the backcountry, talk about mutants and things. Dono’s worked very hard. He’s been able to do much more for the district now he’s got power in his own right, and that’s won people round. But you can’t count on that sort of goodwill forever; he has to secure the succession.’

‘What’s a body birth got to do with that?’

‘Tante Cordelia says all true wealth is biological,’

‘Tante Cordelia’s a romantic.’

‘I bet Miles doesn’t say that. But what I mean is, she’s Betan. On Barrayar, all true power’s biological. Dono’s claim to the Countship rests on his being Pierre’s closest male heir. If his son’s claim is to be beyond dispute, Dono’s must be, too: not proven in the Council of Counts, but in the flesh. A Barrayaran man shows he’s a man by siring an heir.’

‘Proving his prick works.’

Olivia gave this comment the attention it deserved. ‘Dono claimed the Countship in the modern way. His son will get it the old-fashioned way.’

‘If it is a son. What if you have five daughters?’

‘We’ll swop the third in a warming pan. I said old-fashioned, not totally obsolete. You can do a lot with Betan tech.’

‘So Kareen says. But Dono’s hardly middle-aged, no-one’s going to be inheriting anything from him for decades.’

‘I hope not.’

‘Come to that, isn’t most of him still genetically XX? How does that work when it comes to aging; has he sacrificed years for inches?’

‘I prefer,’ said Dono Vorrutyer, entering the room, ‘to think of it as exchanging the possibility of a slightly premature coronary attack, for the certainty of an extremely premature assassination. Besides, the Vorrutyer heart only runs in the male line. It seems I have something to thank my genes for after all.’

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Date: 2014-03-13 12:07 pm (UTC)
antisoppist: HW Amy sideways 1 (HW sideways)
From: [personal profile] antisoppist
I love "doesn't mean you need to go all Time of Isolation". But you are right. It does.

Is "years for inches" a specific Betan calculation - tick here for trade-off on sliding scale?

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Date: 2014-03-13 03:05 pm (UTC)
antisoppist: HW Amy sideways 1 (HW sideways)
From: [personal profile] antisoppist
Fortunately, I have finished eating my Scotch egg.

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Date: 2014-03-13 09:28 pm (UTC)
antisoppist: HW Amy sideways 1 (HW sideways)
From: [personal profile] antisoppist
There are probably a lot of people who have escaped Jacksons Whole who need various things that have been done to them undoing. Genetic re - engineering plus therapy could be a winning business combination.

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Date: 2014-03-12 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wellinghall.livejournal.com
That's great - and a good example of how your talents extend to areas other than Wimsey.

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Date: 2014-03-13 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Thank you! I like to have a number of settings to my stun gun, to update a metaphor.

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adina-atl.livejournal.com
I love Martya's summation of "Proving his prick works." Because that's really the hear of it, isn't it?

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Date: 2014-03-13 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I think it pretty much is. Oh God, I bet there were some really hideous/poisonous Time of Isolation folk remedies for impotence...

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Date: 2014-03-13 04:27 pm (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Dark haired woman, pen and ink drawing with watercolour.  Looks a bit like Harriet Vane. (Harriet)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
I don't even want to know. Except I do, in a sort of hideous-fascination kind of way....

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Date: 2014-03-13 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Half Barrayar's foliage seems to involve provoking acute swelling...

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Date: 2014-03-13 05:06 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-03-13 12:10 pm (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Dark haired woman, pen and ink drawing with watercolour.  Looks a bit like Harriet Vane. (Harriet)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
That's excellent!

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Date: 2014-03-13 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Thank you!

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Date: 2014-03-13 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
Great :) I particularly love the warming pan reference, have you been watching the wonderful Lucy Worsley recently too? ;)

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Date: 2014-03-13 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I haven't! Though I'm pretty sure that I got the ref from some TV programme or other ;-)

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Date: 2014-03-13 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
Actually, I think there was another history documentary I watched recently that mentioned that story too but Lucy's was more memorable.

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Date: 2014-03-14 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lareinenoire.livejournal.com
Oh, this is delightful. I love the Koudelka sisters so much.

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Date: 2014-03-17 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Me too, I wish we saw more of them. There's a lot of very basic stuff about them we don't actually know.

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Date: 2014-03-16 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-redboots.livejournal.com
Excellent! I have about four different fics from different fandoms floating about in my head, all of which are screaming at me to be written, but I have been pants about getting down to it. One of them I'm not even sure *is* a fandom.... ("The Pursuit of Love", anybody?).

Do you find, as I so often do, that writing sermons takes up all your creative brains for the week? I adore preaching, it's what God created me to do, but it does sap my creative energy on occasions!
Edited Date: 2014-03-16 08:47 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-03-17 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
There is a reader for every small book fandom fic out there! Though admittedly not many readers in some cases...

I don't find that writing sermons specifically uses all my creative brains for the week, because I'm not ordained and don't actually believe in God ;-) But I do find that work in general takes up a lot of creative as well as physical energy, and my productivity definitely relates to what's going on in the office.

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Date: 2014-03-17 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-redboots.livejournal.com
Sorry - I was confusing you with [livejournal.com profile] tree_and_leaf as you have both been part of the conversation and both have identical icons!

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Date: 2014-03-18 12:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh this is sweet! You have such a talent for voices - the K. sisters come through loud and clear.
- M

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Date: 2014-03-22 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Thank you!

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Date: 2014-11-13 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-t-rain.livejournal.com
OMG, thank you for satisfying my craving for Vorrutyer fic-with-thinky-thoughts-about-gender. Why isn't there more of it out there?
Edited Date: 2014-11-13 07:20 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-11-13 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
There should be more! It's all Olivia/Dono romance, and I want stuff about the intersection with politics. (OK, I admit that all the Vorkosigan fic I want is about intersection with politics. I have a file of fic notes entitled "Miles and the UKBA".)

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Date: 2014-11-14 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-t-rain.livejournal.com
Yes! Also, why is there so much Byerly / Ivan and practically no Byerly casefic?

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