nineveh_uk: Illustration that looks like Harriet Vane (Harriet)
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I have just seen a rec for a fic with the following summary:

Ireland, 1920. There's a war on, but no one seems to be playing by the rules. John Watson, injured and unemployed after his time at the Front, joins up with the special forces sent over to keep the peace, but when he meets Sherlock Holmes, the second son of the local lord, he begins to lose track of which side he is on.

It is difficult to believe that it is going to go well. Maybe the author has done an absolutely brilliant job and successfully avoided the many pitfalls involved in setting their c.120,000 words fandom AU in another country during a war that has numerous rumbles extending into the present-day. If so, good for them! But on the balance of probabilities, probably not.

To some extent I sympathise with the author, having been involved in a recent discussion on FFA about the total lack of fandom activity associated with The Jewel in the Crown*. But even less than my qualifications to write TJitC fic that isn't prequel or future-fic for Sarah Layton set in England, is the chance of success in, for example, writing a Sherlock AU set in British India during WWII with Sherlock taking the role of Ronald Merrick.**

It's not that I think there is material that fandom shouldn't touch. I do think that there is material that if fandom touches it, the chances of doing it well are probably quite small for lots of people. Especially when they lack personal engagement with, or high level academic study in, the subjects concerned.

[ETA: There's something to be added here about genre, ambition, the genre-tourism element potentially involved in AU (tropey or otherwise), comedic licence, the nature of the original canon, and how they all complicate things.

Also, I am now imagining a wide variety of ludicrous crossovers with TJitC. Merrick is definitely one of Crowley's successes. It's practically canon. Barbie has probably met Aziraphale.]

*Challenge number one, it's long and dense.

**I am suddenly imagining a Jewel in the Crown bakery AU, in which Merrick is the son of a corner shop keeper who has risen to regional manager in a supermarket chain and who can't stand their bread sales being challenged by an upstart Polish version of Greggs.

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Date: 2015-05-30 03:57 pm (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
Sherlock is a student working behind the bar at the Mr Thomas's Chophouse in Manchester's Cross Street on 15 June 1996; John is an MEN cameraman stopping in for an early pint after a long night covering pre-Euro '96 events in Manchester.

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Date: 2015-05-30 04:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clanwilliam
John is a British Army surgeon temporarily reassigned to a prison. Sherlock is a charismatic but stubborn Republican inmate. The year is 1981.

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Date: 2015-05-30 04:20 pm (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
I would say, "You win" but I've just got to chapters 23- onwards of the work in question.

Who'd have thought that the IRA weren't really responsible at all, it was just Moran and Moriarty stirring things?

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Date: 2015-05-30 04:58 pm (UTC)
clanwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] clanwilliam
I skipped to the end, couldn't face more. I look forward to your in-depth review of it, though.

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Date: 2015-05-30 05:09 pm (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
OK, I'm going to have to, haven't I?

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Date: 2015-05-30 05:13 pm (UTC)
clanwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] clanwilliam
I can't wait for M and L to comment on it.

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Date: 2015-05-30 09:26 pm (UTC)
ankaret: (Existential Threat)
From: [personal profile] ankaret
John is a mildly successful writer of more-accurate-than-most military SF whose latest book has ended up on a Hugo slate supported by dubious persons. Sherlock is a prolific forum poster who just wants all the facts so that he can make up his own mind.

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Date: 2015-05-30 09:44 pm (UTC)
clanwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] clanwilliam
Win!

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Date: 2015-05-31 10:30 am (UTC)
lexin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lexin
Total win of the internets.

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