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I appear to be writing Kylo Ren fic. Save me!

Last weekend I bought The Last Jedi on DVD. It's really a very expensive public education film about the danger of cults.

Much as I've always been a sucker for tormented baddies, I suspect it is being over-generous to the characterisation to be reminded of Claggart's line from the libretto of Billy Budd, 'the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness comprehends it and suffers.'* Nonetheless, it is very apt.

Question: in which work of popular culture have I recently been reminded of the line 'build a Heaven in Hell's despair', because it certainly wasn't Blake.** It will probably turn out to be Twilight or similar.

*I'd be surprised if the biblical original hadn't cropped up at some point in contemplation of the Force, though.

**Hell for me will be the pit of boiling oil while an amateur actor reads the lesser works of Blake and Wordsworth for all eternity.

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Date: 2018-04-22 09:24 pm (UTC)
moon_custafer: neon cat mask (Default)
From: [personal profile] moon_custafer
A musical friend of mine once commented that if he goes to Hell when he dies, he’s pretty sure he will be given a group of tone-deaf singers and made to direct them in the Ring Cycle.

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Date: 2018-04-23 12:18 pm (UTC)
moon_custafer: neon cat mask (Default)
From: [personal profile] moon_custafer
I mean, I’m pretty sure he’s far more deserving of an eternity with books, chocolate cake and handsome men.

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Date: 2018-04-27 10:36 am (UTC)
moon_custafer: neon cat mask (Default)
From: [personal profile] moon_custafer
I’d take the alcohol as read ;)

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Date: 2018-04-22 11:14 pm (UTC)
violsva: The words "Oh, Sandy!"; a reference to The Comfortable Courtesan (Oh Sandy)
From: [personal profile] violsva
'build a Heaven in Hell's despair'

Not exactly popular culture, but was it the Madame C- short story?

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Date: 2018-04-22 11:59 pm (UTC)
marginaliana: Buddy the dog carries Bobo the toy (Default)
From: [personal profile] marginaliana
If I had to pick one person that I follow who would be least likely to write Kylo Ren fic, you'd definitely be in the running.

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Date: 2018-04-23 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] caulkhead
I am probably one of the people least likely to read a Kylo Ren fic, but I would read that one (and probably will).

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Date: 2018-04-23 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com
Hee hee! Not sure if you've seen it, but the following may (or may not) help...

Kylo Ren does 'Undercover Boss' on Saturday Night Live (USA), where he wears a blond wig and says he's Matt, a radar technician. It goes as well as you'd expect!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOSCASqLsE

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Date: 2018-04-23 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonetka.livejournal.com
I remember when that first aired, that was great. The outtakes are pretty good too. ("Do you have cousins who work here or something? Did your cousin get you this job?")

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Date: 2018-04-23 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com
I will have to check out these outtakes. :D

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Date: 2018-04-23 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I didn't know there were outtakes! I must watch them.

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Date: 2018-04-23 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I have seen it, but it is always worth repeating! And indeed there may be a reference to it...

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Date: 2018-04-23 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonetka.livejournal.com
I can't save you, because I'd actually like to read said fic and am looking forward to it. As uneven as I thought *The Last Jedi* was, those Rey/Kylo scenes were on fire. I can't remember the last time I wished so desperately for a ship that was so blatantly wrong.

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Date: 2018-04-23 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
The film has some significant pacing and other issues, but I've found they actually annoy me less on successive rewatches, because I know they are there and can just shrug my shoulders, whereas first time round I was just irritated. The Rey/Kylo scenes were perfect first time and remain so. Illicit finger-touching! It rings all the Spike/Buffy bells of my youth.

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